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		<title>By: mzeecedric</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8288</link>
		<dc:creator>mzeecedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich verwende nur GMail &amp; Google Apps zur Zeit. Warum willst du überhaupt pop3 Sammeln? Bei Bedarf konnte ich bisher einfach alle an meinen Gmail Account weiterleiten, was spricht da dagegen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich verwende nur GMail &amp; Google Apps zur Zeit. Warum willst du überhaupt pop3 Sammeln? Bei Bedarf konnte ich bisher einfach alle an meinen Gmail Account weiterleiten, was spricht da dagegen?</p>
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		<title>By: mzeecedric</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8287</link>
		<dc:creator>mzeecedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Gmail ist nett, aber bietet leider keinen POP3 Sammeldienst wie z.B. Web.de an.
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Jaein, das ist nicht ganz richtig. Gmail bietet einen pop3 Sammeldienst an, dieser ist aber nur in der englischen Spracheinstellung unter Settings/Accounts sichtbar.
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Gmail läuft auch nicht über lahme Modemverbindungen (vor allem nicht die tollen Ajax Anwendungen). 
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Gmail lässt sich ganz einfach umstellen, am Ende der Seite findet man &quot;Google Mail view: standard with chat &#124; standard without chat &#124; basic HTML&quot;. 
Basic HTML is what you might want. Ich habe keine aktuellen EAK Anwendererfahrungen, aber mE lädt Gmail um ein vielfaches schneller als Web.de / Gmx.de voller Werbebanner.
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Web.de ist gut, aber leider nur auf Deutsch verfügbar sowie kostenpflichtig bei richtigem Gebrauch. 
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IMHO ist Web.de ein Dreck, jedenfalls wenn ich einfach einen Webmailer möchte. Den ganzen anderen Schnick-Schnack verwende ich eh nicht.
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GMX find ich von der Adresse her blöd, und die 1&amp;1 Webmailer sind so etwas von unbrauchbar, dass man einfach nur schreien möchte.
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Gmx ist noch grottiger als Web.de, vorallem nervt die Werbung extrem. Und man kann einfach nicht damit arbeiten. Den 1&amp;1 Webmailer kenne ich nicht, zum Glück...</description>
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Gmail ist nett, aber bietet leider keinen POP3 Sammeldienst wie z.B. Web.de an.
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<p>Jaein, das ist nicht ganz richtig. Gmail bietet einen pop3 Sammeldienst an, dieser ist aber nur in der englischen Spracheinstellung unter Settings/Accounts sichtbar.</p>
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Gmail läuft auch nicht über lahme Modemverbindungen (vor allem nicht die tollen Ajax Anwendungen).
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<p>Gmail lässt sich ganz einfach umstellen, am Ende der Seite findet man &#8220;Google Mail view: standard with chat | standard without chat | basic HTML&#8221;.<br />
Basic HTML is what you might want. Ich habe keine aktuellen EAK Anwendererfahrungen, aber mE lädt Gmail um ein vielfaches schneller als Web.de / Gmx.de voller Werbebanner.</p>
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Web.de ist gut, aber leider nur auf Deutsch verfügbar sowie kostenpflichtig bei richtigem Gebrauch.
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<p>IMHO ist Web.de ein Dreck, jedenfalls wenn ich einfach einen Webmailer möchte. Den ganzen anderen Schnick-Schnack verwende ich eh nicht.</p>
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GMX find ich von der Adresse her blöd, und die 1&amp;1 Webmailer sind so etwas von unbrauchbar, dass man einfach nur schreien möchte.
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<p>Gmx ist noch grottiger als Web.de, vorallem nervt die Werbung extrem. Und man kann einfach nicht damit arbeiten. Den 1&amp;1 Webmailer kenne ich nicht, zum Glück&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Burns</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8252</link>
		<dc:creator>Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the webmailer from t-online.de. But it is not recommendable, because of too many disadvantages. I really dont understand why free providers such as web.de offer better services and possibilities than providers with costs.

So far, I got around of changing my mail address and provider, because I am a bit worry to loose some contacts. Of course I can tell it everybody, but still there is a possibility that I forget someone. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the webmailer from t-online.de. But it is not recommendable, because of too many disadvantages. I really dont understand why free providers such as web.de offer better services and possibilities than providers with costs.</p>
<p>So far, I got around of changing my mail address and provider, because I am a bit worry to loose some contacts. Of course I can tell it everybody, but still there is a possibility that I forget someone. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Burns</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8251</link>
		<dc:creator>Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the webmailer from t-online.de. But it is not recommendable, because of too many disadvantages. I really dont understand why free providers such as web.de offer better services and possibilities than providers with costs.

So far, I got around of changing my mail address and provider, because I am a bit worry to loose some contacts. Of course I can tell it everybody, but still there is a possibility that I forget someone. ;-)

What why do you argue against SquirrelMail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the webmailer from t-online.de. But it is not recommendable, because of too many disadvantages. I really dont understand why free providers such as web.de offer better services and possibilities than providers with costs.</p>
<p>So far, I got around of changing my mail address and provider, because I am a bit worry to loose some contacts. Of course I can tell it everybody, but still there is a possibility that I forget someone. ;-)</p>
<p>What why do you argue against SquirrelMail?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8244</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to say Netscape: I was forwarding my 1&amp;1 mail to Netscape and when it got there, it was stuck forever.

- Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to say Netscape: I was forwarding my 1&amp;1 mail to Netscape and when it got there, it was stuck forever.</p>
<p>- Steve</p>
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		<title>By: kikuyumoja</title>
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		<dc:creator>kikuyumoja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,
thx for the feedback!

Yes, exactly, we share the same problem. POP3 is possible with 1&amp;1 Germany though. It isn&#039;t in North America?

As for Google Apps on uhuru.de - i tried that. It&#039;s nice! But there&#039;s one problem, and that is: Google Mail /Apps doesn&#039;t work on very slow connections - we had tremendous problems using Gmail in Embu. The WRMA office was using a winnet.co.ke webmailer - just an ordinary squirrel mail - and i registered a gmail address for them, but opening gmail via winnet.co.ke was such a pain although no blocked ports/sites/etc.

Gmail still is very close to the ultimate webmailer interface...*sigh*...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,<br />
thx for the feedback!</p>
<p>Yes, exactly, we share the same problem. POP3 is possible with 1&#038;1 Germany though. It isn&#8217;t in North America?</p>
<p>As for Google Apps on uhuru.de &#8211; i tried that. It&#8217;s nice! But there&#8217;s one problem, and that is: Google Mail /Apps doesn&#8217;t work on very slow connections &#8211; we had tremendous problems using Gmail in Embu. The WRMA office was using a winnet.co.ke webmailer &#8211; just an ordinary squirrel mail &#8211; and i registered a gmail address for them, but opening gmail via winnet.co.ke was such a pain although no blocked ports/sites/etc.</p>
<p>Gmail still is very close to the ultimate webmailer interface&#8230;*sigh*&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ntwiga</title>
		<link>http://kikuyumoja.com/2007/03/13/trotzdem/comment-page-1/#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>Ntwiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JKE

I use 1&amp;1 as well and have exactly the same problem. I ended up setting up my account to forward all my mail to netscape to avoid having to deal with the extra-retarded 1&amp;1 webmail interface. 

Then, last month, I realized that 1&amp;1 does not allow POP access. My email is stuck with them. What a retarded policy!!!

I think that I am finally getting to a solution though. I found about something called Google Apps/Services for companies last month: basically, you get your domain, point your MX and CX records to google and you can read your mail and use google apps in the gmail domain. I got an invitation to try it out but I have not had the chance to test it yet. It seems like this might work - how cool would it be if I can read my email at say  webmail.ntwiga.net using the gmail interface!!! Very very cool! 

You can read about it here

https://www.google.com/a/

Ask for an invitation and try it out.


- Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JKE</p>
<p>I use 1&amp;1 as well and have exactly the same problem. I ended up setting up my account to forward all my mail to netscape to avoid having to deal with the extra-retarded 1&amp;1 webmail interface. </p>
<p>Then, last month, I realized that 1&amp;1 does not allow POP access. My email is stuck with them. What a retarded policy!!!</p>
<p>I think that I am finally getting to a solution though. I found about something called Google Apps/Services for companies last month: basically, you get your domain, point your MX and CX records to google and you can read your mail and use google apps in the gmail domain. I got an invitation to try it out but I have not had the chance to test it yet. It seems like this might work &#8211; how cool would it be if I can read my email at say  webmail.ntwiga.net using the gmail interface!!! Very very cool! </p>
<p>You can read about it here</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/a/" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/a/</a></p>
<p>Ask for an invitation and try it out.</p>
<p>- Steve</p>
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