Comments on: Harambee, harambee, tuimbe pamoja… http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:31:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kuyanda http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-8296 kuyanda Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:16 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-8296 Thank you so much for your effort to help Kenyans who do not want to turn ear and eyas to what yopu have already acheived for the needy. Well l have lived in Nairobi for over twent fours and and worked with children for over seveteen years seven under someone and ten runing my own four children centres . What l know a bout my people is that they fear responsibility and always what to be spoon feed . You Must have a God given heart and calling to work thus it Must be a vocational not a carrier others keep on knocking on doors and you will find one out of 10 and who knows this you will succeed. Yes trying something and failling is better than just sitting and succeeed. You are not allone l have helped children and when they finish high the parents come for them and do not want to care how they lived for seven years or even ten. some times it is hard to help someone or people who do not appreciate your efforts But you know God knows you and He will give you more people to help you realize the hope that you you are trying to create in this hope;ess kids Please keep up good vision that you have and God will open ways for you Reve. Kuyanda Hudson Thank you so much for your effort to help Kenyans who do not want to turn ear and eyas to what yopu have already acheived for the needy.
Well l have lived in Nairobi for over twent fours and and worked with children for over seveteen years seven under someone and ten runing my own four children centres . What l know a bout my people is that they fear responsibility and always what to be spoon feed . You Must have a God given heart and calling to work thus it Must be a vocational not a carrier others keep on knocking on doors and you will find one out of 10 and who knows this you will succeed. Yes trying something and failling is better than just sitting and succeeed. You are not allone l have helped children and when they finish high the parents come for them and do not want to care how they lived for seven years or even ten. some times it is hard to help someone or people who do not appreciate your efforts But you know God knows you and He will give you more people to help you realize the hope that you you are trying to create in this hope;ess kids
Please keep up good vision that you have and God will open ways for you
Reve. Kuyanda Hudson

]]> By: Sammie http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-850 Sammie Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:02:54 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-850 Am reminded of a story my dad told a bunch of us when he found us engaged in a discussion on the issue of charity. When he was in UK, he was approached by a woman who claimed that she wanted 5 Pound to help the poor African country of Kenya where most of its people walked bare for lack of clothing and had nothing to eat for lack of food. Bear in mind that this was in the early eighties, when akina Mathare and Kibira were called shanties and not slums. Even today in the age of globalisation and all that, it is sad to realise that the whites who we adore and are ever luring to give us cash, be it in loan (payable at 25% interest), tourism (otherwise we'd have slaughtered all of them) or aid (read www.thinkersroom.com/ on the issue of NGO proliferation in Kenya), The fact still remains: These buggers do NOT give a damn about us, or anybody else as long as we continue to import their guns, their plastic and their products (Seen the fools who are wearing heavy woolen and tweed jackets and boots in this hot weather, coz its fashion?). Woe unto us if we strike out on our own, (case in point: Afghnistan, Iraq, China, North Korea, now Iran) and chase away the "Imperialists" (Why does that word so irk the west? I am on Zimbabwe's case here) Back to the issue at hand. Like M, i concur that this aid will only help the NGO's fund their administration. The politics in this country is another matter alltogether. We are still waiting for the roads to be made(after the noise about bypasses quited down and Raila was thrown out of the ministry), we are still waiting to hear of the action being taken following the numerous reports by the respective commissions, we are yet to see the moneys stashed abroad, we are yet to see any new crop of politicians. we are yet to see. Am reminded of a story my dad told a bunch of us when he found us engaged in a discussion on the issue of charity. When he was in UK, he was approached by a woman who claimed that she wanted 5 Pound to help the poor African country of Kenya where most of its people walked bare for lack of clothing and had nothing to eat for lack of food. Bear in mind that this was in the early eighties, when akina Mathare and Kibira were called shanties and not slums.

Even today in the age of globalisation and all that, it is sad to realise that the whites who we adore and are ever luring to give us cash, be it in loan (payable at 25% interest), tourism (otherwise we’d have slaughtered all of them) or aid (read http://www.thinkersroom.com/ on the issue of NGO proliferation in Kenya), The fact still remains:
These buggers do NOT give a damn about us, or anybody else as long as we continue to import their guns, their plastic and their products (Seen the fools who are wearing heavy woolen and tweed jackets and boots in this hot weather, coz its fashion?).
Woe unto us if we strike out on our own, (case in point: Afghnistan, Iraq, China, North Korea, now Iran) and chase away the “Imperialists” (Why does that word so irk the west? I am on Zimbabwe’s case here)
Back to the issue at hand. Like M, i concur that this aid will only help the NGO’s fund their administration.
The politics in this country is another matter alltogether. We are still waiting for the roads to be made(after the noise about bypasses quited down and Raila was thrown out of the ministry), we are still waiting to hear of the action being taken following the numerous reports by the respective commissions, we are yet to see the moneys stashed abroad, we are yet to see any new crop of politicians. we are yet to see.

]]> By: irena http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-631 irena Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:18:50 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-631 I tend to agree with Omsiani on that because in a charity organization I belong to, the question that arises more often than not, is the transparency and accountability issue and it is quiet a challenge to convince Kenyans that the money is going to the intended use I tend to agree with Omsiani on that because in a charity organization I belong to, the question that arises more often than not, is the transparency and accountability issue and it is quiet a challenge to convince Kenyans that the money is going to the intended use

]]> By: omsiani http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-630 omsiani Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:32:38 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-630 I think it also has to do with our culture. Fundraising... the first thing that goes through most minds is who's political career am I supporting? What camp am I supporting? Who benefits? What scam is being run? Might not be the person collecting, but in most cases, it is going to end up in someone's pocket. Fundraising is just associated with such shameful stories in Kenya that unless one knows the beneficiary, it is like throwing money down a drain. I think it also has to do with our culture. Fundraising… the first thing that goes through most minds is who’s political career am I supporting? What camp am I supporting? Who benefits? What scam is being run? Might not be the person collecting, but in most cases, it is going to end up in someone’s pocket. Fundraising is just associated with such shameful stories in Kenya that unless one knows the beneficiary, it is like throwing money down a drain.

]]> By: afroM http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-615 afroM Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:04:14 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-615 i think hash makes a great point about capturing their hearts and minds, then their wallets, i was still thinking about the appeal to bloggers, most bloggers/people have short attention spans, the question is often does this move me enough to do something, and if then, whatever you are asking for - be it time or cash, am i willing to? Its definitely challenging. Oh then there is the whole thing of 'what is in it for me'. In the CCF? ads for orphans they say that the person donating will get a picture and a letter from the recipient of their donation. Definitely a challenge. i think hash makes a great point about capturing their hearts and minds, then their wallets, i was still thinking about the appeal to bloggers, most bloggers/people have short attention spans, the question is often does this move me enough to do something, and if then, whatever you are asking for – be it time or cash, am i willing to? Its definitely challenging. Oh then there is the whole thing of ‘what is in it for me’. In the CCF? ads for orphans they say that the person donating will get a picture and a letter from the recipient of their donation. Definitely a challenge.

]]> By: m http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-614 m Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:42:33 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-614 It's just as much a problem here. Some time back I was trying to raise some funds for an old people's home and full knowing Kenyans and their money are never parted I thought i'd be clever and solicit foodstuffs and material donations instead. Even with my twsit, I ran into the same problem, as Mshairi said. Guys promised heaven and hell until d-day. It's tough, its very tough indeed. It’s just as much a problem here. Some time back I was trying to raise some funds for an old people’s home and full knowing Kenyans and their money are never parted I thought i’d be clever and solicit foodstuffs and material donations instead.

Even with my twsit, I ran into the same problem, as Mshairi said. Guys promised heaven and hell until d-day.

It’s tough, its very tough indeed.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » The week in Kenyan Blogs http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-613 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » The week in Kenyan Blogs Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:29:24 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-613 [...] Kikuyu Moja shares his thoughts about the challenge of harambees (fund raising) for a social project like a children’s home. He considers the perceptions of Kenyans towards charity. …Hence, the provoking allegation that I would like to make and on which I would like YOU to comment on is that there are a lot people out there - no matter what nationality - that don’t give a damn about others. And it’s not only that they don’t care, it’s also that they seem to think that OTHERS might be responsible for the fate of street/abandoned children, the environment, politics / etc.. Charity begins at home? For them it ends at home. [...] [...] Kikuyu Moja shares his thoughts about the challenge of harambees (fund raising) for a social project like a children’s home. He considers the perceptions of Kenyans towards charity. …Hence, the provoking allegation that I would like to make and on which I would like YOU to comment on is that there are a lot people out there – no matter what nationality – that don’t give a damn about others. And it’s not only that they don’t care, it’s also that they seem to think that OTHERS might be responsible for the fate of street/abandoned children, the environment, politics / etc.. Charity begins at home? For them it ends at home. [...]

]]> By: hash http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-611 hash Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:08:20 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-611 Good post JKE. I think part of what you're witnessing is the "noise" in everyone's life. Think about how much you are blasted with every day by the media, be it web, TV or Radio. I'm in marketing, so I can tell you it's a helluva lot. Here's what I think is happening: There's so many people/companies vying for my attention every day. Yes, there is a social project that is important, but there's also some starving orphans in _____, and that recent earthquake in ______. I know I can't help everyone, so I'll just ignore it all. I'll say, "yes" to my friends in order to save face, but will just not come through when it comes time to pay up. Anyway, I believe the answer is not to just try and get people on a short-term basis. Lakini, you just pay me $5 and I won't bother you anymore. You have to get them to buy in, to believe and to be a part of something. If you want to raise funds these days, you have to involve people and capture their hearts and minds - then their wallets. HASH Good post JKE. I think part of what you’re witnessing is the “noise” in everyone’s life. Think about how much you are blasted with every day by the media, be it web, TV or Radio. I’m in marketing, so I can tell you it’s a helluva lot.

Here’s what I think is happening:
There’s so many people/companies vying for my attention every day. Yes, there is a social project that is important, but there’s also some starving orphans in _____, and that recent earthquake in ______. I know I can’t help everyone, so I’ll just ignore it all. I’ll say, “yes” to my friends in order to save face, but will just not come through when it comes time to pay up.

Anyway, I believe the answer is not to just try and get people on a short-term basis. Lakini, you just pay me $5 and I won’t bother you anymore. You have to get them to buy in, to believe and to be a part of something. If you want to raise funds these days, you have to involve people and capture their hearts and minds – then their wallets.

HASH

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]]> By: Open Blog: KenyaUnlimited » This week in Kenyan Blogs http://kikuyumoja.com/2006/02/26/harambee-harambee-tuimbe-pamoja/comment-page-1/#comment-608 Open Blog: KenyaUnlimited » This week in Kenyan Blogs Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:52:31 +0000 http://kikuyumoja.com/?p=319#comment-608 [...] Kikuyu Moja shares his thoughts about the challenge of harambees (fund raising) for a social project like a children’s home. He considers the perceptions of Kenyans towards charity. …Hence, the provoking allegation that I would like to make and on which I would like YOU to comment on is that there are a lot people out there - no matter what nationality - that don’t give a damn about others. And it’s not only that they don’t care, it’s also that they seem to think that OTHERS might be responsible for the fate of street/abandoned children, the environment,? politics / etc.. Charity begins at home? For them it ends at home. [...] [...] Kikuyu Moja shares his thoughts about the challenge of harambees (fund raising) for a social project like a children’s home. He considers the perceptions of Kenyans towards charity. …Hence, the provoking allegation that I would like to make and on which I would like YOU to comment on is that there are a lot people out there – no matter what nationality – that don’t give a damn about others. And it’s not only that they don’t care, it’s also that they seem to think that OTHERS might be responsible for the fate of street/abandoned children, the environment,? politics / etc.. Charity begins at home? For them it ends at home. [...]

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